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An Interview with Carlos
Warter |
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| Spirit Matters talks with Carlos Warter, Psychiatrist and Spiritual Activator who synthesizes modern scientific knowledge with ancient sacred spiritual practices. | |||
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"Immensity, not in the sense of power, control and domination, but in the sense of the magnificent whole ... the empire and fortitude of who we are as divine beings." |
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SM: Let's explore Healing and the Essential Self. How can we bring ourselves into alignment as a race to make a positive transition into the future? CW: Or, perhaps, how can we really heal so that the destiny of the humanity of this planet is not a solution to a problem, but a destination? We need to realize that we are cosmic beings ... essential souls that are not here for a short time. We have been here forever, and that ties us completely into the religious, organismic philosophy of living life. In that cosmic reality, are the seeds of philosophy, mysticism, healing and medicine. These are little activities that, in this third dimension, we have chosen to do, just because we have nothing else to do. It is a mission statement. It is a higher perception of who we are, and how interconnected we are with galactic, universal forces. Today, that sounds New Age, but in all of history, it has been kept as sacred, initiatory knowledge. SM: What do you think about
traveling into the other dimensions: the fourth and the
fifth dimension, and why do you think it's so scary to
people to find out that they are so much bigger than they
thought they were? |
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There is really no traveling, per se. It is an inner journey, ... a journey of the soul expanding it's consciousness for a purpose. We "travel" or expand our awareness not just as explorers, but for a specific purpose. If we realize that we are much larger than we appear, then what we call attachment and identification, to/with the problems in this world, we then see them in a multitude of perspectives. That gives us the power to dissolve them, more than solve them. It also helps us to align the higher energies for a higher abstraction or notion of living life. I like to use this example: If your mother would have told you that who you are as a little girl is an Eternal Being, instead of telling you that you are a member of this little group called my family, my race, my religion, my nation, then you would have grown up with a notion of yourself that would be vast, ... immense! If you had been told as you were growing up that who you are is an Eternal Being and your focus is to enjoy life, to realize the magnificence of this area of creation, to serve others, and to learn some skills to master this environment in a way that doesn't destroy it and control it, but to master your voyage through it and to find your contribution to the spiritualization of matter, then your life would look different. |
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But instead of that, we have
grown up with an activation of the territorial brain. The
result is that we hold ourselves to be physical and
material entities only. Then we want to travel somewhere
else. Yet deep in our hearts and souls we know that this
is not true. We know we are in a conscious prison. And if
you're in a conscious prison, you want to get out. CW: Well, this is where conferences like this come in. I don't see this conference as an event of talking about things or having some experiences. This is really a large group of significant beings who are in an act of prayer. They are creating a force field that resonates outside of the conference, and that slowly but surely produces a wave of change. When you drive next to a monastery, or church inside which some real spiritual activity is happening, you can feel it. The building, the gardens, the entire environment gets affected. The way I see my world, and the way I see our world as a collective, is to shift the collective bars of the prison so that they expand to a point where they can dissolve. If you look at little children, or people who have not been infected by pseudo-civilized thinking (I just came back from the rain forests) you will see that their consciousness is pretty much limitless. So what happens in our educational mode, (and I'm not talking about schools, I'm talking about the whole education that we give each other on the planet), is that we shrink our brain our hearts, and our possibilities. The work is to expand possibility so as to dissolve it. The more we do this, the more the force field changes. The more the force field changes (either through publications, web pages, conferences, talking, and vibrating at a particular frequency) the more contagious it becomes to remember. Now every sacred tradition says we need to remember that we coincide not with something new and of this time, but that we coincide with the lineage of humanity which has been longing to remember it's immensity. Immensity, not in the sense of power, control and domination, but in the sense of the magnificent whole ... the empire and fortitude of who we are as divine beings. Therefore we need to change our thinking about our identity, which is usually conditioned by our upbringing and our beliefs, and reinforced by the culture. We need to shift from the head to the heart. The heart is the foundation for living in a coherent frequency of life, instead of in a thought frequency, or a belief system. SM: Tell us more about frequency. CW: I believe that everything can be perceived as vibration. I don't want to be absolute about this, because in the vastness of this great mystery, it might be seen differently. But anyway, we can perceive our existence, and our encounters as wavelengths that either meet or don't. Our way of relating to emotions is actually with respect to higher or lower frequencies. Our values of what we perceive as higher or lower ideals is also translatable into frequencies. We could say that we are navigating in an ocean of vibrations. Therefore, wherever we are traveling, we create images of that reality. The universe then rearranges itself according to those pictures of reality. Now this is nothing new. If we look at cause and effect, or karma, or even the notion of sin, it is a result of a certain frequency acting in a specific realm, and producing particular consequences. So I feel that the Lord, God, the Force, or whatever you want to call it, is so versatile, it allows for anything. So, if a person aligns himself or herself with a certain frequency, the whole universe says, "Okay. So be it." It is our free will, not to align ourselves with the illusion, but to align ourselves with the desire of coming out. We cannot do this alone. We need each other as a collective, but not only in the human realm. We need the help of the angelic realm, the archangelic realm and other realms I don't even know how to describe with names. They are here when we pray to them, and when we align ourselves with our intention to be saved from the prison of confinement of limited existence. I think that this whole life is a service, not as in doing something, but as an inner service, an inner work that will align us as a collective to the recovery of the sacred, which is the title of my book: "The Recovery of the Sacred." SM: Do you ever forget? CW: Do I ever forget? I've been training myself more years in this lifetime to remember, than to forget. A couple of years ago, I passed a threshold of more years consciously dedicated to working it out, than years I've lived without that intention. And sometimes I do get trapped, and I get attracted by illusion. But I have also installed in my system, the feedback mechanism to know when I'm getting lost, and then to ask for help. It's almost instantaneous. Everything in my life is geared towards this. My wife is a fantastic master of remembrance, as are children. The work I do, I see very clearly. Sometimes I speak in an environment that is not really the frequency that I'm geared to. I can see the feedback immediately and that reminds me to change. Even TV reminds me to change. The Dalai Lama taught me a technique about TV. He said when you watch things that are destructive and violent, you know that now you don't have to do it yourself. It's happening in your experiential kingdom, and they are doing it for you. Therefore you bless them. So, it's not a rejection, but rather that you look at it with the thought, "This is something I'm *not* doing." SM: What is the Bliss-Body that you speak of? CW: Well, its a term that refers to the same thing as the Cabalistic term "chaya". Chaya is the soul expressing itself in the fourth dimension. It is happy for the sake of being alive, for the sake of being happy. You see it a lot in children. When you ask them why they're happy, they say, "I'm happy because I'm happy." Now, in the third dimension, we turn to a reason for our happiness. I'm happy because it's a nice day, or because I met someone, or because I got something. That reduces the happiness through a translation of the material, which is going to come and go. But the Bliss-Body is always present. The fifth dimension is the standing of the self that exists, regardless of bliss, irrespective of a good or bad day. This is the soul identity ... in awe, praying to the divine. SM: What is the most important thing to do on a daily basis? CW: A little exercise. Imagine what you're grateful for. Shift the awareness from head to heart. There you'll find the doorway that is beyond any expectations, or imagination. SM: Thank you very much CW: Thank you. |
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